So naturally, Valentine’s day is coming up so I had to make sure I posted something valentine’s related. So, To All The Boys I’ve Loved Before. The third movie is ready to air on Netflix on the 12th of February following consecutive years of pre-Valentine’s Day premiers. The first two movies were a big hit however, I personally felt let down by the second movie, I felt like it created continuity errors and made me like almost all of the characters less. So, I asked on my Instagram whether y’all wanted a TATB post before or after number three and I got a resounding response to before, so here is everything that doesn’t make sense or that I find annoying in the first two movies.
Quick reminder – this will not be related in any way to the books and I will therefore not refer to them, if the books explain things better I find that irrelevant however still feel free to let me know.
Firstly, Josh treats Lara-Jean like a kid, but they’re like the same age? Because he’s younger than Margo but used to be childhood friends with Lara-Jean. So why does the whole first scene of him high-fiving her make me feel like he sees her as the kid sister of his girlfriend.
“Mom told me never to go to college with a boyfriend”, well that’s sage advice, so, say Margo is 18 because she just graduated and Kitty is like 12. If Kitty was still eating baby food when their mum died then… Margo was probably like 8. She probably told her 8 year old daughter, if you have a boyfriend honey, don’t ever take him to college with you, I don’t care how much you love him. What?
Feels weird she said daddy but okay…
Was she going to eat lunch at school with her sister who had graduated? Also, Chris?
John Ambrose wasn’t at that party? Feels like he would have been.
Do Americans have regular carrots? Like not baby carrots, I can’t remember ever having seen someone eating a regular carrot in American TV, or even just carrot sticks they’re always baby carrots.
Someone uncomfortable using their mirrors shouldn’t be allowed to drive without a fully licensed adult, but I guess that is more of a reflection on her dad and the system with which American teens learn to drive (which I find personally terrifying).
Wearing a feminist necklace and a girl power shirt, while saying she needs a boyfriend 🤣. Nice.
John Ambrose, “from model UN”, not that kid who Lara-Jean totally had a crush on for years while they were young and he had a crush on her and now is back like nothing changed?
In the first movie she would’ve told Peter it was John not some guy? I mean she admitted everyone else.
He cant be salty about that just after going on about Gen. Still team Peter though, whoops.
I hate that door with the pole in it. It looks like they’re standing either side of a wall in different corridors.
I hate that they’re wearing the clothes from the day they broke up in that picture. It grinds my gears so much.
This ski trip is so ridiculously unchaperoned.
So, if Peter was ready to meet Gen in the hot tub on the ski trip then why did the entire scene play out how it did. If Peter was waiting to get back together with Gen than why was he being all mopey about Lara-Jean not sitting with him and telling her right then that he has a thing for her then making out with her. You can’t tell me that if he was waiting for another girl that he wouldn’t have been a bit worried about her coming down and seeing that or Lara-Jean finding out he was there to meet Gen. It just doesn’t work.
Similarly, if Gen was meeting Peter in the hot tub what was she doing looking out of a random window down at the hot tub?
Peter should have cleared up the video thing. Also, anonymously emailed Instagram, she could just have like, reported it. There is no need to be anonymous?
Who is this and why wasn’t he in the first movie if he knew them so well as kids?
The change in address, I’m sure lots of you saw it flying around the internet when they decided they would just change the address that Lara-Jean sent the letter to and thought no one would notice, well… we did. Which makes it even more glaring because if John Ambrose lived in California when she wrote him the letter, then look, she didn’t live in the same town as him obviously.
So obviously we have to start with the recasting of John Ambrose which makes me question whether they really did not have faith that they would make a second movie and therefore didn’t cast someone to play him as the later character.
The balloon they let in the sky isn’t the same one from the previous shot. Sorry but it isn’t.
Also, you can’t just pretend the end of the first movie didn’t happen and act like John Ambrose didn’t show up at her house. It seriously make me so infuriated for no real reason, that they put the scene in the end of the first movie when he goes to her door with his letter, then PRETEND IT DIDN’T HAPPEN.
Lara-Jean is so incredibly annoying in the second movie!
For serious, the model UN doesn’t work. AND THEY HAD THE SOURCE MATERIAL IN THE BOOKS TO NOT MAKE THESE MISTAKES!
Why did Maddie Zeigler accept this role, she’s better than this. I want to see Maddie Zeigler star in her own, non-controversial, teen romance movie. I mean Eva from Dance Moms got one.
Obviously he cant text during practice, and like, he showed up. Also, I think every coach has a rule like that, don’t text during the middle of practice. How is he going to safely train lacrosse and play lacrosse while looking at his phone.
NO singing in number 3 please. Please!
Her necklace disappears and it’s so annoying, seriously go watch it again because she has a necklace on, then she says put it on for me, he is holding the locket, she turns around and doesn’t have a necklace on.
She should’ve told John earlier that she was dating Peter.
Again, so when they break up Lara-Jean is all like oh well if I hadn’t come to the hot tub you would be with Gen, but that isn’t true obviously because she broke up with him for like a couple of months or something over Christmas and Thanksgiving, he didn’t get back together with Gen in that time. It also kind of isn’t his fault that Gen was still into him, yes all of this stuff that doesn’t make sense is bad on Peter but it isn’t 100% him.
I think Lara Jean was leading John on the whole movie, I’m on team not Lara-Jean.
Why would they throw a garden party at the time of year when its cold enough to snow?
But not in the same night…
I want to watch Stormy’s romantic escapades instead, or Chris and Trevor. If I watch the third I expect lots more Chris and Trevor.
And finally, them floating into the sky at the end makes me want to throw up, like my god, they go from standing on the ground to floating above the house, that is awful.
So, don’t forget number 3 comes out just before Valentine’s on the 12th. Let me know in the comments if you’re planning to watch it or not and whether you were team Peter or team John in TATB2. I haven’t decided if I want to watch the third one yet but if you want a post about it too let me know. Thanks so much for reading as always, you can check out my previous posts, social media or follow my blog down below. Don’t forget to like, comment or share if you enjoyed it.
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Okay, so I finally got around to watching Bly Manor and I know I’m late to the game but hey. Anyway, my main theme is disappointment. I loved Hill House, I thought it was great honestly and I’ve have re-watched Hill House multiple times. But, for me at least, Bly Manor just didn’t meet expectations.
So I’ll just go over what I thought was so great about Hill House!
- There was always things going on, ghosts or what not. There was always something new and interesting happening so you weren’t quickly bored by watching. We also can’t forget the hidden ghosts in the background!
- The flashbacks were directly related to those in it and their flashbacks were connected.
- Character development: I think by the end of the show the character development was so apparent and it was so well-rounded. You couldn’t deny that Theo came into her own and accepted her abilities and stopped hiding from them, she allowed herself to find closeness. Luke worked so hard on his sobriety, the other siblings found some faith in honesty and everyone came to terms with their childhood.
- Everything had a purpose; the people who worked at hill house, their daughter, the ghosts, there was no wasted time. For example, showing the cats dying was a clear way to present Shirley’s fascination with death and therefore her career.
- The ending: I think the ending of Hill House is perfect, seeing Steven reconnect with his wife and start a family, their father giving his life to save his kids a second time but ending up with the love of his life, Luke reaching his two years sobriety made me cry. And also, while the staff at Hill House were not integral to the story, I became attached to them in those little moments and when they had discovered their child had died, pleading to be able to stay with her, to the point when her and her husband ultimately die in Hill House together and reunite with their family. Gives me chills just thinking about it. Theo overcoming her life long fear of closeness and her powers to let someone in and let herself be who she is. Such an emotional rollercoaster which I think perfectly rounded up the stories. Although, I must note that some don’t believe this was the true ending but I choose to believe that is how it happened.
However, I was let down by Bly Manor…
I haven’t heard much about Bly Manor and maybe that is just because I hadn’t watched it but when I watched the first 3 and a half episodes and I was seriously bored. It was draining to watch the show for me and I feel like nothing happened. I hate slow burn, this is something you will learn about me through many of my posts. I cannot believe how little happened in the first 4 episodes of Bly Manor.
I feel as though setting the entire show inside of someone telling a story is lazy and instantly let me down. The friends I watched it with also felt this. In Hill House as things moved forward there was a specific point that they were getting to, everyone was getting to the point when they found out their sister had died, then flashing back to events in their lives which shaped them. We weren’t just hearing it about it and all this basic stuff.
I should know who the narrator is, I watched 3 episodes of the show and don’t know who the narrator was in relation to the story. Why would I care about the narrator if they don’t tell me straight away who it is, especially when she is telling me about other peoples lives. I know some people did guess who the narrator was but her accent is different in the story vs. when it is being told and I honestly didn’t care the decipher who the narrator was because I was so uninterested in the “story” I just wanted to see the events play out.
I also just couldn’t get past the accents, they couldn’t have just set it in America? Picked an American haunting? Hired British people to play the roles? It was so distracting to me especially when using actors whom we have all heard speak in Hill House in their regular accents or in ‘You’.
I also kind of felt like I was watching the movie ‘The Boy’ if anyone has seen it. Because, they shrouded the main girl (who is a nanny) in mystery of what/who she is running away from. She even had run away to England to be a nanny, just like The Boy. She arrived and it was a giant old British home, similar again and there were no ‘parents’ around in either. There were however others who worked there. I don’t know if anyone else felt like this but I seriously felt like I was watching that movie, however it was going so much slower than that movie. Let me know if you felt this connection yourself? It obviously isn’t perfect but it reminded me of that.
I wasn’t given a reason to care about all the past characters; in Hill House we cared because they were a family, their sister had died and we were learning about their hard childhood and their connections to each other up until the point she had died. But, in Bly Manor, I don’t really care who the previous au pair was, I needed to care before I saw her story. I don’t particularly care about the man who “stole all the money”, because he wasn’t related in any way to the main girl and he also wasn’t around until the very end and even then he didn’t have much impact. They also waited too long (in my opinion) to show the Dani’s story, I feel like I needed to feel some emotional attachment far earlier in the show, they could have sprinkled her story in as opposed to throwing a lot of it in at once, 4 episodes in. Or just done her story in the first or second episode. I understand keeping the mystery behind the ghost and such around, that would have been interesting, if I knew anything about her or her story.
Also, Dani has been followed by the ghost of her fiancé for years, that’s cool, wish it mattered! The whole first half of the show she’s all worried about him following her and thinking he is going to do something to her but it literally didn’t matter. It didn’t come to anything. Sure, maybe that is why Dani can see the ghosts at Bly and others can’t however, that isn’t explicitly explained. And they just kind of forgot about her fiance after she was hanging out with him outside. So, unless I missed something, he didn’t need to be there. What a waste of time.
Also, let’s get back to the premise of the story, she is telling a story at a rehearsal dinner, but really it is Flora’s rehearsal dinner. Okay fine, I’m still irritated that she was telling a story to begin with I would’ve preferred them structure it differently but whatever. BUT, she tells the story with details she couldn’t possibly know. The woman in the lake and her sister’s story, the gardener she had no way of knowing. It happened so long ago and by the time the gardener started to work there, the lady had already lost her face. So, it just doesn’t work for me. She had absolutely no way of knowing the lady in the lake’s story. She also couldn’t possibly know certain things which happened to the other people, Dani, sure but not Mrs. Grose or Miles. Not to mention her accent changed entirely from being the narrator to when she worked at Bly making me, once again unable to connect them.
Also, some of the characters who I would have liked to see events in their past, we didn’t and instead we saw dumb stuff like the little boy jumping out of a tree or the ghosts stories.
And finally, the ending. I know some people liked the ending but I really didn’t. I don’t feel like I needed to watch the whole thing for Dani to just die anyway because she basically gave herself to the lake. What a wonderful ending? We watch her start to live a life, plagued with Bly until she just gives in and dies. I would have preferred it just end after they didn’t all get killed that last night at Bly but that’s just me. Even a cliffhanger could have been interesting ending with her being both Dani and the lady in the lake.
I know this was basically a whole list of just problems with Bly but I will give them credit for the way they had Mrs. Grose never eat anything. It was so subtle that it added a bit of mystery but without being so overt that you had to notice. Little details like that make a show for me and they are what made Hill House, so I did think that was good. I was honestly more interested for the first few episodes in why she never eats than I was in the ghosts or children.
Also, I think Mrs. Grose being dead the whole time was well done, she was acting strangely the whole time but she was also always around and doing her job, she appeared alive and for her to not know herself that she was a ghost is so interesting to me. I think of all the parts of the show, she was executed the best.
All that said, The Haunting of Bly Manor is okay, it isn’t amazing and was definitely a let down for me especially since I enjoyed Hill House so much. I feel like they could have easily restructured the season, added some more actual scares (because it just wasn’t scary) and it would have been a lot better. But I had to force myself to finish it in order to write this so I hope you enjoyed.
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Let me explain,
SO, I’ve seen ‘House at the End of the Street’ honestly, probably, 5 times at this point and those who read my Curse of Chucky review post will know, I’m more into the supernatural type horror. This is probably at least, in part, because it is further from reality. However, I think this is a really good movie for several reasons.
I think it is scary because of how real it is. He was a mentally ill man who was emotionally tortured his entire life after the death of his sister. He was told he killed his sister and his parents did not want him, they wanted his sister. For parents to force their kid to take on their dead sisters identity because she died is abuse. And no one knew, no one helped him.
This was furthered by him being an outcast because of his family meaning he couldn’t make the positive ties he had needed. The town treated him badly because of something that happened to him (well at least so they thought).
I also think it is good because you can see him somewhat deteriorate when he loses “his sister” over and over. He loses so much control when he loses her. And it’s also super interesting to me how much they humanised him. Lots of movies where people are mass murderers or kidnappers show them as a monster but this movie really said ‘hey, it’s not that simple’.
He grapples with wanting to protect Jennifer Lawrence and wanting to fit in, whilst also trying to manage his psyche and mental illness. It is clear that he did not want to hurt Jennifer Lawrence however, in that moment, when he realized he couldn’t have both unless she was Carrie Anne, for him things changed.
Now, I’m no psychologist/psychiatrist, and I’m not condoning his actions in any way. But it is so powerful to show a normal person ruined by society over time. He was a child and there was an accident, his parents abused him for years before he could no longer take it and yes, murdered them. Then he spent the rest of his life trying to atone for “killing his sister” by “protecting her and keeping her safe”. Obviously, that isn’t what was happening but for him, it is, he was protecting his sister. The town shunned the boy they believed lost his parents and sister in a terrible way.
So, I really think this movie goes to show how society can ruin people and mental illness can have terrible impacts. He was a regular guy, any one of us could have become him if we had similar circumstances and I think the depth of his character is what really makes this a good movie. Even after all he had lived through and the persisting mental illness, he is kind to Jennifer Lawrence at all times until he needs her to become Carrie Anne.
I won’t say it’s particularly scary or anything but it is fascinating to me to finish a movie about a man kidnapping women and killing them, but feel somewhat sorry for the killer at the end when they show his story. A man who had nothing to hold on to but his sister and he needed her to ground himself.
I’d love to know your thoughts on this movie and if you’ve seen it in the comments at the bottom of the page. It is currently available on Aussie Stan and I highly recommend giving it a shot.